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Post by Phoenix FC on Aug 4, 2022 22:44:12 GMT -5
If 20 beats 1, that's fair and square. Ideally 1 will always win that matchup but if 20 beats them then that's their fault. Sure, but that fight should never happen outside of special circumstances. 20 doesn't deserve to leap frog over 19-2. Otherwise we should just get rid of rankings. Says the guy that tried to leap frog ahead of everyone with Khabib for a title shot. 🙄 Win w tournament, get a title shot... Simple. There's no need to over complicate things or revert back to the archaic & bias system of Justin basically getting to select the contenders himself. Quit your fucking whining, cuz we all want our fighters to get title shots and we all think our fighters, or should be, be better than they are. The reason this is ALL a negative, is because of YOU, and your shit. |
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Post by Phoenix FC on Aug 4, 2022 23:14:30 GMT -5
If the title shots are based on contention.... i dont want people challenging for contention. Its unfair to everyone else. Dont wanr people to lose out on oil because they arent the squeaky wheel. For example: khabib challenges diego and beats diego. Khabib gets a title shot. But rory macdonald is now not getting a shot due to the challenge... its not fair to rory. (Sorry to bring this recent stuff up just needed to use it as an example) Agree completely. Right now, at any given time, I believe the next 2 challengers for a belt are established at almost all times. I would probably have something like that in place to help avoid this, but also so people know in advance that they have a title shot coming up, and can upgrade accordingly. Really, I think we all just want to see people who deserve title shots, get title shots. And champions have a chance to meaningfully fight all of the best fighters teams have to offer. I think the season 4 experiment will accommodate that. And as I said in that thread, if it doesn't, we can flip back to this for Season 5. And even then, after a season of upgrading, it's possible our tournaments will be more competitive, and our rankings closer by then, so we might even be able to come back to this method naturally. Time, as they say, will time. You're never going get that though Justin... Not with this relatively limited pool of fighters, as a whole, that we have in each division. It's always going to be the same fighters unless we get new teams, but, even then, it won't change anything cuz any true new fighters coming into the league are almost as shitty as possibly get. At least with the tournament system it's clear cut that the winner gets the shot as opposed to you, more or less, just getting to pick who the contender is and fueling even more thoughts of tampering than there already are. You literally have at least two teams here that are about ready walk out the fucking door, yet you're still listening to your little lapdog yapping in your ear and whining about how his precious Khabib should be getting more title shots cuz you're getting bored, yourself, of the very system you implemented so it wouldn't appear as though you were tampering anymore. Which is great, and doesn't need to be changed. It's already bad enough that my seasons are weighted so that I do great to start out with, then everyone catches up and overtakes me by the end. And don't say it's not true, cuz this is at least 2 seasons in a row that it's happened this way, if not, 3. So, I am absolutely 100% against taking out the tournaments out, cuz you can throw up your BS graphs & charts, and use your word judo to make sound like the greatest thing since sliced bread... But, at the end of the day, at it's base, the new/revised old system, is just you deciding who you think should be the contenders instead of letting what we've created decide that. 🤷 |
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Post by The Texas Rattlesnakes on Aug 5, 2022 4:39:18 GMT -5
Sure, but that fight should never happen outside of special circumstances. 20 doesn't deserve to leap frog over 19-2. Otherwise we should just get rid of rankings. Says the guy that tried to leap frog ahead of everyone with Khabib for a title shot. 🙄 Win w tournament, get a title shot... Simple. There's no need to over complicate things or revert back to the archaic & bias system of Justin basically getting to select the contenders himself. Quit your fucking whining, cuz we all want our fighters to get title shots and we all think our fighters, or should be, be better than they are. The reason this is ALL a negative, is because of YOU, and your shit. Yes, me trying to leap frog as Khabib shouldn't be allowed. You say you don't want Justin to pick the contenders, but he books the fights. He literally picks all the fights, wtf are you talking about? We all? The only person who is dillusional about their fighters is you. I know who is good and who isn't on my team, and I know why. Because they haven't been upgraded enough. |
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Post by The Mighty Ducks on Aug 5, 2022 12:36:50 GMT -5
i vote forr whatever is easiest for the processss of maatchmaking. if its tourneys cool if its handpickin then also cool
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Post by Lord Byron's Conquistadors on Aug 5, 2022 19:22:27 GMT -5
if im being honest i dont like. it gets teams hopes up and so guys go on rampages and start talking about quitting when their fighter isnt good enough to win a belt and they lose in the first minute of the first round to the champ. im not talkin about you gap, but some people do that and will do it again when they get flatlined in their upcoming title joke fight.
there are tiers and levels and layers to this game and from what i seen from my fighters walking through guys so many times is the tournaments seem to let fighters skip through those levels. seen it against megan anderson when she was champ see it against penn when hes champ and same with jj.
as a guy with champs its fine because i dont have to upgrade for that title fight i can focus on my other fighters and build my secondary fighters up but i dont know if i think thats fair. especially the false hope thing since i see a lot of members take it really hard when their shitty tournament winner gets slept when everyone who didnt have home team blinders on saw it coming the second they won the tournament
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Post by Phoenix FC on Aug 5, 2022 19:34:27 GMT -5
Says the guy that tried to leap frog ahead of everyone with Khabib for a title shot. 🙄 Win w tournament, get a title shot... Simple. There's no need to over complicate things or revert back to the archaic & bias system of Justin basically getting to select the contenders himself. Quit your fucking whining, cuz we all want our fighters to get title shots and we all think our fighters, or should be, be better than they are. The reason this is ALL a negative, is because of YOU, and your shit. Yes, me trying to leap frog as Khabib shouldn't be allowed. You say you don't want Justin to pick the contenders, but he books the fights. He literally picks all the fights, wtf are you talking about? We all? The only person who is dillusional about their fighters is you. I know who is good and who isn't on my team, and I know why. Because they haven't been upgraded enough. Yes, because there's actually a fucking system to it right now and he has a limited pool of fighters that he can select based on wins and/or when they last fought, not just because he wants somebody to have a shot over someone else. The tournaments are the fairest, simplest, and cleanest way to determine our number one contenders. Cuz you say it's that you trying to leapfrog your way to a title shot with Khabib shouldn't be allowed, yet that's been pretty much your only focus for the last 4 months, which makes you the biggest hypocrite on the entire site. I know who's good on my team, and who isn't yet, too... Your only basis for thinking ALL my fighters are shit is our little beef here cuz you're a slimy, conniving little shit head, and I'm the only one actually calling you on it, which pisses you off, cuz it's the fucking truth and I don't give a shit if you're an admin, a moderator or just a member... If I see something wrong, that I don't like, or is just outright shitty, I'm going to say so. 🤷 That's both the blessing & the curse of having me back on this site again, kid. It's just a damn shame that the administration of this site actually does need a "Jiminy Cricket type" around here, more often than not, when shit like this comes up. It's just sad. 😕 |
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Post by Lord Byron's Conquistadors on Aug 5, 2022 19:38:24 GMT -5
Yes, me trying to leap frog as Khabib shouldn't be allowed. You say you don't want Justin to pick the contenders, but he books the fights. He literally picks all the fights, wtf are you talking about? We all? The only person who is dillusional about their fighters is you. I know who is good and who isn't on my team, and I know why. Because they haven't been upgraded enough. Yes, because there's actually a fucking system to it right now and he has a limited pool of fighters that he can select based on wins and/or when they last fought, not just because he wants somebody to have a shot over someone else. The tournaments are the fairest, simplest, and cleanest way to determine our number one contenders. Cuz you say it's that you trying to leapfrog your way to a title shot with Khabib shouldn't be allowed, yet that's been pretty much your only focus for the last 4 months, which makes you the biggest hypocrite on the entire site. I know who's good on my team, and who isn't yet, too... Your only basis for thinking ALL my fighters are shit is our little beef here cuz you're a slimy, conniving little shit head, and I'm the only one actually calling you on it, which pisses you off, cuz it's the fucking truth and I don't give a shit if you're an admin, a moderator or just a member... If I see something wrong, that I don't like, or is just outright shitty, I'm going to say so. 🤷 That's both the blessing & the curse of having me back on this site again, kid. It's just a damn shame that the administration of this site actually does need a "Jiminy Cricket type" around here, more often than not, when shit like this comes up. It's just sad. 😕 every post i read from this guy is farther and farther off the deep end i swear to god. do you know you have made up an entire disney land world in your head and now you have declared yourself the jiminy cricket of your own disney land?? i just want to know if you know you are sounding like a complete loon or if you think you make sense. to the rest of us you sound like you are living in a looney bin. of your own creation no less!!!! |
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Post by x - Former Team Gorilla-Bear on Aug 5, 2022 20:02:14 GMT -5
I would say overall positive, it would just depend on how frequent tournaments are. It could be that the reason they won, would be that the manager is heavily investing in them. I always like an idea of an upset, it really just depends how low-ranked the fighter is.
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Post by Phoenix FC on Aug 5, 2022 20:25:07 GMT -5
I voted negative because it's a complete and total negative that we're even discussing this bullshit again, let alone implementing it next season, especially when it was already decided, two seasons ago, that we weren't going to eliminate the tournaments cuz it really is the fairest, simplest & cleanest way to determine our #1Cs, despite the little, miniscule, minor flaw that really only bothers 2 people in the entire league, one of which doesn't have a team, and doesn't really affect him at all. So, we're basically ditching the tournaments because Rattlesnakes is the only actual team in the league that has any issue with how we determine our #1Cs.
That's not right. He can make suggestions all he likes, but it doesn't mean it should be implemented when he's the ONLY one with a "problem". 🤷
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Post by The Texas Rattlesnakes on Aug 5, 2022 20:57:51 GMT -5
I voted negative because it's a complete and total negative that we're even discussing this bullshit again, let alone implementing it next season, especially when it was already decided, two seasons ago, that we weren't going to eliminate the tournaments cuz it really is the fairest, simplest & cleanest way to determine our #1Cs, despite the little, miniscule, minor flaw that really only bothers 2 people in the entire league, one of which doesn't have a team, and doesn't really affect him at all. So, we're basically ditching the tournaments because Rattlesnakes is the only actual team in the league that has any issue with how we determine our #1Cs. That's not right. He can make suggestions all he likes, but it doesn't mean it should be implemented when he's the ONLY one with a "problem". 🤷 You do know the negative option is in favor of getting rid of the tournaments, ya? We'll let the polls speak for itself. Just because I'm the only one talking doesn't mean I'm the only one that feels this way. |
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Post by Phoenix FC on Aug 5, 2022 21:23:03 GMT -5
I voted negative because it's a complete and total negative that we're even discussing this bullshit again, let alone implementing it next season, especially when it was already decided, two seasons ago, that we weren't going to eliminate the tournaments cuz it really is the fairest, simplest & cleanest way to determine our #1Cs, despite the little, miniscule, minor flaw that really only bothers 2 people in the entire league, one of which doesn't have a team, and doesn't really affect him at all. So, we're basically ditching the tournaments because Rattlesnakes is the only actual team in the league that has any issue with how we determine our #1Cs. That's not right. He can make suggestions all he likes, but it doesn't mean it should be implemented when he's the ONLY one with a "problem". 🤷 You do know the negative option is in favor of getting rid of the tournaments, ya? We'll let the polls speak for itself. Just because I'm the only one talking doesn't mean I'm the only one that feels this way. Well, I do now, and changed my vote. But you literally ARE the only one that feels that way cuz you're the only one that's been bitching about this fictitious "issue" YOU concocted in your own little brain for the last 2 seasons or so. No piddly ass poll is going change that fact at all. 🤷 And, judging by the comments thus far, your sentiment isn't the consensus here at all. It's not, nor has it ever been, the tournaments that bastardize results. It's the lazy "ranking system" we use. If your #5 or #6 fighter has an off night and loses to a #11 or #12, they should get dropped down to 11 or 12, nor should the 11 or 12 get slotted into the 5 or 6 slot either. That's ridiculous. I'm all for addressing actual problems & issues, but, again, the fact is that the tournaments aren't the problem, it's the lazy, shoddy ranking system. Maybe try addressing the real problem, and coming up with a different way to do the rankings, instead of trying to attack, and abolish one of main things that makes this entire league fair for everyone. |
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Post by The Texas Rattlesnakes on Aug 5, 2022 21:40:50 GMT -5
You do know the negative option is in favor of getting rid of the tournaments, ya? We'll let the polls speak for itself. Just because I'm the only one talking doesn't mean I'm the only one that feels this way. Well, I do now, and changed my vote. But you literally ARE the only one that feels that way cuz you're the only one that's been bitching about this fictitious "issue" YOU concocted in your own little brain for the last 2 seasons or so. No piddly ass poll is going change that fact at all. 🤷 And, judging by the comments thus far, your sentiment isn't the consensus here at all. It's not, nor has it ever been, the tournaments that bastardize results. It's the lazy "ranking system" we use. If your #5 or #6 fighter has an off night and loses to a #11 or #12, they should get dropped down to 11 or 12, nor should the 11 or 12 get slotted into the 5 or 6 slot either. That's ridiculous. I'm all for addressing actual problems & issues, but, again, the fact is that the tournaments aren't the problem, it's the lazy, shoddy ranking system. Maybe try addressing the real problem, and coming up with a different way to do the rankings, instead of trying to attack, and abolish one of main things that makes this entire league fair for everyone. I've been doing the rankings differently for the entire season. Go look at the recent updates. Like when Khabib beat Diego and didn't go to #5 and Diego didn't drop to #13. |
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Post by Phoenix FC on Aug 5, 2022 21:47:00 GMT -5
Well, I do now, and changed my vote. But you literally ARE the only one that feels that way cuz you're the only one that's been bitching about this fictitious "issue" YOU concocted in your own little brain for the last 2 seasons or so. No piddly ass poll is going change that fact at all. 🤷 And, judging by the comments thus far, your sentiment isn't the consensus here at all. It's not, nor has it ever been, the tournaments that bastardize results. It's the lazy "ranking system" we use. If your #5 or #6 fighter has an off night and loses to a #11 or #12, they should get dropped down to 11 or 12, nor should the 11 or 12 get slotted into the 5 or 6 slot either. That's ridiculous. I'm all for addressing actual problems & issues, but, again, the fact is that the tournaments aren't the problem, it's the lazy, shoddy ranking system. Maybe try addressing the real problem, and coming up with a different way to do the rankings, instead of trying to attack, and abolish one of main things that makes this entire league fair for everyone. I've been doing the rankings differently for the entire season. Go look at the recent updates. Like when Khabib beat Diego and didn't go to #5 and Diego didn't drop to #13. That's great... But Khabib shouldn't be at #7 from #13 either. That's not fair or accurate at all. That's ridiculous, and talk about bias. 🙄 lol |
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Post by The Texas Rattlesnakes on Aug 5, 2022 21:55:49 GMT -5
I've been doing the rankings differently for the entire season. Go look at the recent updates. Like when Khabib beat Diego and didn't go to #5 and Diego didn't drop to #13. That's great... But Khabib shouldn't be at #7 from #13 either. That's not fair or accurate at all. That's ridiculous, and talk about bias. 🙄 lol Based on what? |
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Post by Phoenix FC on Aug 5, 2022 22:17:55 GMT -5
That's great... But Khabib shouldn't be at #7 from #13 either. That's not fair or accurate at all. That's ridiculous, and talk about bias. 🙄 lol Based on what? Based on the fact that he's your own fighter and you're the one doing the rankings now. 🤨🙄🤷 I get that you want him in title picture... That's great, but even beating Diego doesn't garner a full 6 slot jump up from #13. It just doesn't. Like #10... Maybe #9, tops, since Diego was top 5. You suffer from the same exact syndrome with Khabib that you accuse me of with Rory. Except, the difference is that I haven't been sitting here sniveling and whining for 2 seasons about where he was ranked. The only time I sort of did was when he was 2-0 and said you should just give him #20 over Henderson, which was apt & accurate at the time... And what happened? Rory became #20 anyways after that, and progressively moved up from there for 2 seasons, and now is getting his first title shot. Unlike you, trying to fast track Khabib back up by trying to challenge Fitch for a #1C fight he had no business in, or baiting GAP into a fight with Diego when he legitimately dropped to below #10, but you refused to trust the process to get him back up over #10. |
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