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Post by The Texas Rattlesnakes on Aug 31, 2022 12:22:23 GMT -5
The Chosen Ones, The Hale Storm, Outback Cyclone, Phoenix FC, and anyone else I think might dislike this: Would your opinion on this change if the divisions merged but you didn't have to cut anyone if you didn't want to? You would just have your choice of 2-4 women per team. The division gets way more competitive, and then everyone can keep the women they like to work on.
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Post by The Sandman on Aug 31, 2022 12:37:15 GMT -5
The Chosen Ones, The Hale Storm, Outback Cyclone, Phoenix FC, and anyone else I think might dislike this: Would your opinion on this change if the divisions merged but you didn't have to cut anyone if you didn't want to? You would just have your choice of 2-4 women per team. The division gets way more competitive, and then everyone can keep the women they like to work on. This compromise is actually doable. And with the weight levelling, smaller fighters would not be at an inherent disadvantage. (Just want to clarify that so its not a sticking point for anyone)
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Post by Outback Cyclone on Aug 31, 2022 12:52:54 GMT -5
I'm not the biggest fan of that, but if there's a huge push for this to happen, then I can accept it and only grumble under my breath. Also, if The Sandman doesn't do the 18 points thing, can I take the 2 points to use on my own instead? If I had known there would've been a chance the 18 wouldn't happen I would've gone that route.
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Post by The Sandman on Aug 31, 2022 13:17:38 GMT -5
Also, if The Sandman doesn't do the 18 points thing, can I take the 2 points to use on my own instead? If I had known there would've been a chance the 18 wouldn't happen I would've gone that route. yes, this or something else equally satisfactory will still happen. Between this and two resignations, a lot of unforeseen things happened between the points offer and now. But people will still get something for sure.
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Post by The Chosen Ones on Aug 31, 2022 13:21:37 GMT -5
I still like them separate
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Post by The Texas Rattlesnakes on Aug 31, 2022 13:34:11 GMT -5
I still like them separate Is there a specific reason?
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Post by The Chosen Ones on Aug 31, 2022 13:37:04 GMT -5
Yeah, we separated them because women were never being upgraded to begin with because the BW girls were always OP. Now we want to go back to that lol
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Post by The Sandman on Aug 31, 2022 13:40:29 GMT -5
Yeah, we separated them because women were never being upgraded to begin with because the BW girls were always OP. Now we want to go back to that lol I was making women their actual weight, not levelling their weight as i would do here. And while I think height plays a very small factor, being that you can see neither Alexander Volkov nor Tim Sylvia are currently our heavyweight champion it does not play enough of a factor to override upgrades.
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Post by The Chosen Ones on Aug 31, 2022 13:51:07 GMT -5
I'm still not a fan of it. We shouldn't be punished for upgrading our females while everybody else focuses on their men. There's 2 female divisions and 4 male ones, those deciding to focus on the two females one shouldn't be punished for that.
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Post by The Texas Rattlesnakes on Aug 31, 2022 13:59:10 GMT -5
Yeah, we separated them because women were never being upgraded to begin with because the BW girls were always OP. Now we want to go back to that lol I was making women their actual weight, not levelling their weight as i would do here. And while I think height plays a very small factor, being that you can see neither Alexander Volkov nor Tim Sylvia are currently our heavyweight champion it does not play enough of a factor to override upgrades. That, and JJ just slaughtered Megan Anderson who was a really long time BW champ. Now the issue is the top 3% of BW and FW are so much better than the depth below them, if the divisions unified the women would be just as competitive as the rest of the divisions.
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Post by The Texas Rattlesnakes on Aug 31, 2022 13:59:34 GMT -5
I'm still not a fan of it. We shouldn't be punished for upgrading our females while everybody else focuses on their men. There's 2 female divisions and 4 male ones, those deciding to focus on the two females one shouldn't be punished for that. You wouldn't be punished if you get to keep all four women if you choose.
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Post by The Rocketmen on Aug 31, 2022 14:21:18 GMT -5
I think I would be more inclined to agree to this if I could get a 3-5 fight sample of what fights would look like with the "weight leveling". I fear my FW will get slaughtered despite telling me they would be competitive against BW, because I am inclined to believe FW will still get shredded. My judgment on that might be completely wrong, but maybe doing an exhibition series would resolve a lot of that concern for those of us who oppose this?
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Post by The Texas Rattlesnakes on Aug 31, 2022 14:29:29 GMT -5
I think I would be more inclined to agree to this if I could get a 3-5 fight sample of what fights would look like with the "weight leveling". I fear my FW will get slaughtered despite telling me they would be competitive against BW, because I am inclined to believe FW will still get shredded. My judgment on that might be completely wrong, but maybe doing an exhibition series would resolve a lot of that concern for those of us who oppose this? Rose has had 11 points more than Carano. We can check that fight out?
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Post by The Rocketmen on Aug 31, 2022 14:32:18 GMT -5
I would be comfortable allowing my fighters to be the guinea pigs for exhibitions, or even if we wanted them to count as fights to their records, to test it out.
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Post by The Texas Rattlesnakes on Aug 31, 2022 14:43:59 GMT -5
I'm down for both as well.
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