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Post by The Rocketmen on Oct 2, 2022 20:37:48 GMT -5
Lose weight a more healthier way than literal starvation...
Count calories. Reduce carbs eat veggies and drop cals to 1500/day. Thats about a typical deficit of 500 cals per day and every 3500 calories is roughly a pound or so. So a pound per week. Do that for a year and youve healthily retrained yourself to eat better and progress down weight rather than a crash starvation. You will just put the weight back on.
Be diligent and be safe man. But anyone not telling you that water idea is fucking stupid and crazy isnt being a good person to you even if you dont want to hear it.
Look into cico instead. Every single diet is literally a calories defecit when you take all the other shit out of it. Including your water technique which is literally "slowly kill yourself and look good in a mirror."
Stupid things like the water diet get popular because people are instant "be it now" types and the safer right way of controlling eating behaviour and working out isnt appealing.
I say all of that in a "i support your decision to be healthier but i want you to do it safely."
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Post by The Sandman on Oct 2, 2022 21:42:22 GMT -5
Lose weight a more healthier way than literal starvation... Count calories. Reduce carbs eat veggies and drop cals to 1500/day. Thats about a typical deficit of 500 cals per day and every 3500 calories is roughly a pound or so. So a pound per week. Do that for a year and youve healthily retrained yourself to eat better and progress down weight rather than a crash starvation. You will just put the weight back on. Be diligent and be safe man. But anyone not telling you that water idea is fucking stupid and crazy isnt being a good person to you even if you dont want to hear it. Look into cico instead. Every single diet is literally a calories defecit when you take all the other shit out of it. Including your water technique which is literally "slowly kill yourself and look good in a mirror." Stupid things like the water diet get popular because people are instant "be it now" types and the safer right way of controlling eating behaviour and working out isnt appealing. I say all of that in a "i support your decision to be healthier but i want you to do it safely." Everything about this was absolutely how I felt and my first reaction. And I still believe pretty much all of it. I looked into the water thing, and the studies surprisingly do suggest its not unhealthy in the short term. Like, the idea of starving your body still shooks me, the one I read said 7 days doesn't seem to cause harm and there were the health effects that come with weightloss. But it still feels like a terrible thing to put your system though. Then the biggest thing is the thing I addressed in my comment, which is sustainability. If your diet is still out of whack when you go back to eating normally, you'll just put any weight back on, then perhaps have to fast again, and none of that sounds nice for your organs at all. |
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Post by Team GAP on Oct 3, 2022 0:03:50 GMT -5
My number one is filet mignon Then you have no soul |
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Post by The Chosen Ones on Oct 3, 2022 7:40:24 GMT -5
Lose weight a more healthier way than literal starvation... Count calories. Reduce carbs eat veggies and drop cals to 1500/day. Thats about a typical deficit of 500 cals per day and every 3500 calories is roughly a pound or so. So a pound per week. Do that for a year and youve healthily retrained yourself to eat better and progress down weight rather than a crash starvation. You will just put the weight back on. Be diligent and be safe man. But anyone not telling you that water idea is fucking stupid and crazy isnt being a good person to you even if you dont want to hear it. Look into cico instead. Every single diet is literally a calories defecit when you take all the other shit out of it. Including your water technique which is literally "slowly kill yourself and look good in a mirror." Stupid things like the water diet get popular because people are instant "be it now" types and the safer right way of controlling eating behaviour and working out isnt appealing. I say all of that in a "i support your decision to be healthier but i want you to do it safely." I completely understand where you're coming from and I've done the calorie deficit diet before, it's the only diet realistically whether people realize it or not. The water diet is for a few reasons. 1) It's a restart for my system. After the first few days the food cravings I would typically have are fully gone now. Now I just want food in general so even broccoli sounds delicious at the moment. Essentially it's going cold turkey from all the junk food but it allows you to immediately crave other foods as well. 2) Flushing my system. All the junk food that you eat kind of just sits in your stomach, it's why your shits after eating junk for weeks/months aren't fully solid anymore but more soft. It's because your body can't process the junk food as well as it can the healthier foods. The water diet fully flushes your system (ie I haven't taken a shit in 3 days). 3) Lower appetite. Water diets help shrink your stomach which I desperately needed. Once I go back to eating, I won't need as much food to feel hungry, which will make the rest of my diet much easier than it would have ben just starting off eating healthier. 4) Quick weight loss. Right now I am at a very unhealthy weight and I need to lose it quick. The water diet is a quick way to drop around 30 pounds to get closer to where I should weigh while also providing me with all the benefits I mentioned above. 5) Sustainability. Now this is where we get to the sustainability portion. A lot of people will do the 7 day water diet or 15 day water diet and go right back to how they ate prior (myself being one of them when I did a 7 day water diet). After the 15 days is over, I will be having broth in the morning (your body will have a hard time taking in solid food immediately). For lunch I can have a little bit of food and for dinner it's back to normal for the foods I can eat. Since my body will be missing a lot of nutrients from this diet as well as a lot of the carbs and protein being burned in my body I will be having vegetable soup for the first 2 weeks after the water diet is over. This will give me all the nutrients I will need from the vegetables plus the carbs I would need and I will include chicken and beef to ensure I'm getting protein mixed in as well. After that is done, I have already looked into many meals that I would enjoy that have a lot of healthy benefits to ensure that I can make this more sustainable than my last diet. Trust me, if anybody knows about calorie deficit diets it's this guy lol. I went from 212 to 156 pounds eating chicken nuggets, pizza pockets and sandwiches which monster ultras to drink (10 calories per can and they're bloody delicious!). I was losing 10 lbs a month eating like that but was it sustainable? Hell no. |
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Post by The Sandman on Oct 3, 2022 17:02:46 GMT -5
2) Flushing my system. All the junk food that you eat kind of just sits in your stomach, it's why your shits after eating junk for weeks/months aren't fully solid anymore but more soft. It's because your body can't process the junk food as well as it can the healthier foods. Define "process", because the opposite appears to be true if you consider digestion "processing". Your digestion rate is also based on what you’ve eaten. Meat and fish can take as long as 2 days to fully digest. The proteins and fats they contain are complex molecules that take longer for your body to pull apart.
By contrast, fruits and vegetables, which are high in fiber, can move through your system in less than a day. In fact, these high fiber foods help your digestive track run more efficiently in general.
The quickest to digest are processed, sugary junk foods like candy bars. Your body tears through them in a matter of hours, quickly leaving you hungry again.www.healthline.com/health/how-long-does-it-take-to-digest-food |
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Post by The Chosen Ones on Oct 3, 2022 19:24:07 GMT -5
2) Flushing my system. All the junk food that you eat kind of just sits in your stomach, it's why your shits after eating junk for weeks/months aren't fully solid anymore but more soft. It's because your body can't process the junk food as well as it can the healthier foods. Define "process", because the opposite appears to be true if you consider digestion "processing". Your digestion rate is also based on what you’ve eaten. Meat and fish can take as long as 2 days to fully digest. The proteins and fats they contain are complex molecules that take longer for your body to pull apart.
By contrast, fruits and vegetables, which are high in fiber, can move through your system in less than a day. In fact, these high fiber foods help your digestive track run more efficiently in general.
The quickest to digest are processed, sugary junk foods like candy bars. Your body tears through them in a matter of hours, quickly leaving you hungry again.www.healthline.com/health/how-long-does-it-take-to-digest-foodThe fats that the food has (a ton) doesn’t process quickly. That’s most likely referencing the sugar which is true, that’ll process very quickly. While your body focuses on the sugar though, it leaves the fat. Ie why you’ll gain weight quickly eating those kinds of foods |
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Post by The Rocketmen on Oct 3, 2022 20:37:09 GMT -5
A lot of fats are good for you.
Carbs (sugar and candy and bread and cereal and shit) are not.
Youd be surprise how much our "food pyramid" is controlled by funding parties associated with massive bad foods companies.
Take for instance that weird vid of the woman defending giving children free food in schools that largely consist of candy, donuts and pizza and shit and defending it saying that somehow judging bad foods is archaic and descrimination. It isnt.
Also that woman? Works for a massive cookie company lol
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Post by The Chosen Ones on Oct 3, 2022 21:08:53 GMT -5
A lot of fats are good for you. Carbs (sugar and candy and bread and cereal and shit) are not. Youd be surprise how much our "food pyramid" is controlled by funding parties associated with massive bad foods companies. Take for instance that weird vid of the woman defending giving children free food in schools that largely consist of candy, donuts and pizza and shit and defending it saying that somehow judging bad foods is archaic and descrimination. It isnt. Also that woman? Works for a massive cookie company lol Carbs are healthy. Protein, carbs and fats are all needed in a diet. Healthy carbs turn into glucose which promotes your metabolism, same goes for protein though protein also helps with muscle growth. |
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Post by Team GAP on Oct 4, 2022 0:16:34 GMT -5
Bacon ... bacon.... bacon. That is all. (Unless you have more bacon... then bacon.)
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Post by The Chosen Ones on Oct 7, 2022 6:43:07 GMT -5
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Post by The Chosen Ones on Oct 11, 2022 8:33:16 GMT -5
So turns out this was actually really good for me. I broke my fast on Friday as I mentioned and on Saturday I had immense back pain and had blood in my urine. Turns out I had a kidney stone. The water diet helped really flush my diet and clean out the kidney stone and my back pain is finally gone after two months of it thinking it was just the way I was sitting/pulled muscle. Now I'm all good to go and no more stones!
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Post by The Chosen Ones on Oct 23, 2022 18:25:41 GMT -5
Today marks the last day of me doing only soups for lunch and dinner. Made some pizza for dinner and each pizza is around 40 calories! Tortilla was 15 calories, sauce was 5 calories, cheese was 16.67 calories and the Turkey pepperoni was 3.64 calories. Ended up having 6 of them for 242 calories.  |
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Post by The Rocketmen on Oct 23, 2022 19:19:21 GMT -5
Im going back on cico again. Biggest and easiest way to tackle it is eliminating bread, pasta, etc. but not fully getting rid of carbs.
Breakfast will be like eggs and pickles and olives
Lunch is usually soup something light
Supper is a meat and then a pile of veggies like california mix.
End the night with a tea and thats usually about 14-1600 calories per day.
That is a deficit of about 5-700 cals per day so every 5-7 days I will drop a pound or so.
Its usually pretty quick at the start but I will check in on my progress with you as that continue.
How are you feeling now? Hows your energy at work? How does your joints feel?
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Post by The Chosen Ones on Oct 23, 2022 20:15:59 GMT -5
I’m trying to eat things that I’ll enjoy while making them healthier.
I’m feeling better still tired most days though haha. Let me know how your diet goes!
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