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Post by The Texas Rattlesnakes on Mar 26, 2022 14:10:47 GMT -5
Yes, it is boring seeing scrubs get title fights when they aren't ready for that. This would really be solved if people would upgrade instead of sit on 60 points, but fighter neglecting has always been a problem.
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Post by Phoenix FC on Mar 26, 2022 14:30:12 GMT -5
Yes, it is boring seeing scrubs get title fights when they aren't ready for that. This would really be solved if people would upgrade instead of sit on 60 points, but fighter neglecting has always been a problem. I haven't personally been finding anything particularly boring, though, you're exactly correct that folks sitting on 60 pts, and neglecting fighters does suck, and has always been an issue, but that's still not any reason that the tournaments themselves are actually any sort of problem or to even consider taking them out. Of course "scrubs" are going to be getting more frequent title opportunities, cuz of what you mentioned, but also cuz we're only just into season 3 after starting all over from scratch. It's not the same playing field as it was at the end of Era 1, nor should it be. 🤷
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Post by The Texas Rattlesnakes on Mar 26, 2022 18:09:20 GMT -5
Yes, it is boring seeing scrubs get title fights when they aren't ready for that. This would really be solved if people would upgrade instead of sit on 60 points, but fighter neglecting has always been a problem. I haven't personally been finding anything particularly boring, though, you're exactly correct that folks sitting on 60 pts, and neglecting fighters does suck, and has always been an issue, but that's still not any reason that the tournaments themselves are actually any sort of problem or to even consider taking them out. Of course "scrubs" are going to be getting more frequent title opportunities, cuz of what you mentioned, but also cuz we're only just into season 3 after starting all over from scratch. It's not the same playing field as it was at the end of Era 1, nor should it be. 🤷 Yes, it's not the same playing field, which is why I would argue a slight change to the system would balance it out.
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Post by Lord Byron's Conquistadors on Mar 26, 2022 19:00:09 GMT -5
i been here longer than you and i have seen everything you and sandman and everyone else has said and done this whole damn time. i can draw my own conclusions and form my own opinions. as you always say man, you always do you. the consequences of you doing you is people who listen get a pretty clear idea of who you are. and we make conclusions. ive stated mine. they arent manipulated they arent influenced they are what you put out there usually for 6 pages of arguing for us to form our opinions on. nothin im saying is because anyone wants me to think it. you did all of it all by yourself by being you for better or for worse for the past 9 years or whatever. ill capslock so my point isnt lost. THE THINGS I THINK ABOUT YOU ARE BASED ON WHAT YOU SAY AND DO AND NOT WHAT OTHERS SAY ABOUT YOUSure... Except for that 95% of the time you're parroting exactly what others have said. 🙄🤦😂😂 Cuz it's just assumed that I'm having some sort of fit or breakdown when I voice my opinion, even when asked for that opinion. 🤷 And this thread was a classic example of that... No where here did I lose my shit about anything, yet I'm still getting this shit from you all because you think I am based on what others have said. I've simply just pointed out things that others might be oblivious to, don't want to say cuz there might be repercussions for it, or just simply don't care. Yet, meanwhile, our admin, who claims this place is a 💯% democratic system now, comes into the "polls" thread, doesn't post a poll, or even a question really, and more or less makes an announcement that he, himself, is wanting to take out something that only he really thinks there's a "problem" with, when there's no problem at all except with how he's booking the tournaments. When all that needs to be done is either put these fighters on streaks into the tournaments or give them a special title shot in the queue between contender tournament winners. It's not all that difficult, especially when the tournaments are already the cleanest & fairest way for everyone to determine the #1 contenders. you cant even reply to someone without bringing sandman into it. maybe its not that we are parroting sandman but its that no matter what he says or does you disagree because you think it makes you stone cold steve austin and that its cool. this is the real world. its not cool and its tiresome and i think i speak for the silent majority in saying we are really pretty over it. you dont see the problem you made that clear. i see the problem but since i had all the champs i didnt care that much which scrubs they are facing. i wont fight that it is a problem because it has nothing to do with me. but if i look at things from other perspectives i can see i been smokin scrubs in these title fights and you could say thats a problem lol.
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Post by Lord Byron's Conquistadors on Mar 26, 2022 19:01:34 GMT -5
I haven't personally been finding anything particularly boring, i have!! there we go our opinions cancel each other out and now neither of us needs to say anything else since we have both been heard i voted one way you voted the opposite and now other people can talk instead of you for once. everyone remember i solved this thread when awards voting comes up this season.
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Post by Phoenix FC on Mar 27, 2022 12:18:47 GMT -5
Sure... Except for that 95% of the time you're parroting exactly what others have said. 🙄🤦😂😂 Cuz it's just assumed that I'm having some sort of fit or breakdown when I voice my opinion, even when asked for that opinion. 🤷 And this thread was a classic example of that... No where here did I lose my shit about anything, yet I'm still getting this shit from you all because you think I am based on what others have said. I've simply just pointed out things that others might be oblivious to, don't want to say cuz there might be repercussions for it, or just simply don't care. Yet, meanwhile, our admin, who claims this place is a 💯% democratic system now, comes into the "polls" thread, doesn't post a poll, or even a question really, and more or less makes an announcement that he, himself, is wanting to take out something that only he really thinks there's a "problem" with, when there's no problem at all except with how he's booking the tournaments. When all that needs to be done is either put these fighters on streaks into the tournaments or give them a special title shot in the queue between contender tournament winners. It's not all that difficult, especially when the tournaments are already the cleanest & fairest way for everyone to determine the #1 contenders. you cant even reply to someone without bringing sandman into it. maybe its not that we are parroting sandman but its that no matter what he says or does you disagree because you think it makes you stone cold steve austin and that its cool. this is the real world. its not cool and its tiresome and i think i speak for the silent majority in saying we are really pretty over it. you dont see the problem you made that clear. i see the problem but since i had all the champs i didnt care that much which scrubs they are facing. i wont fight that it is a problem because it has nothing to do with me. but if i look at things from other perspectives i can see i been smokin scrubs in these title fights and you could say thats a problem lol. Well, who the hell are we supposed to be talking about when he was the one that posted this when, prior to this, no one was complaining about this or felt there was a problem? 🤦😂😂 There is no problem though... The reason you're smoking "scrubs" with your champions, isn't due the tournaments being faulty, or anything else, other than the fact that, unless fighters have been power upgraded, nearly every single fighter on the entire site right now is a "scrub", because we've basically only JUST hit the reset and are only 2 seasons in. I'd understand if we were in maybe season 7, or season 10, but not when this Era 2 is in its infancy with only 2 seasons under it's belt. It makes absolutely zero sense to do this right now, because nearly every fighter is a "scrub".
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Post by Phoenix FC on Mar 27, 2022 12:26:32 GMT -5
I haven't personally been finding anything particularly boring, though, you're exactly correct that folks sitting on 60 pts, and neglecting fighters does suck, and has always been an issue, but that's still not any reason that the tournaments themselves are actually any sort of problem or to even consider taking them out. Of course "scrubs" are going to be getting more frequent title opportunities, cuz of what you mentioned, but also cuz we're only just into season 3 after starting all over from scratch. It's not the same playing field as it was at the end of Era 1, nor should it be. 🤷 Yes, it's not the same playing field, which is why I would argue a slight change to the system would balance it out. Not when what I said to Byron above is the actual fact here. 🤷 We're only just barely into season 3, not season 10. Cuz unless they've been power upgraded, nearly every single other fighter is a "scrub" right now cuz of that, cuzwe started from scratch. So it's not really a huge issue right now... If we were further along in number of seasons, I'd see a need for a tweak, but not this early. It literally makes no sense right now.
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Post by Lord Byron's Conquistadors on Mar 28, 2022 3:03:30 GMT -5
Well, who the hell are we supposed to be talking about when he was the one that posted this when, prior to this, no one was complaining about this or felt there was a problem? 🤦😂😂 a discussion was posted asking for input thats what you should be talkin about. not a "who should we be talking about". try not talking about people at fucking all!!! stay with what is being talked about. you dont need to shit talk people constantly. all you did this whole time was just say there was no problem (which there is i can see it if you cant thats on you not me sorry) then start shit talkin people for posting an idea like sandman did or for agreeing with changing things that sandman asked about. stop looking for a who all the time and talk about the fucking idea not the person. thats whats probably pissin everyone off with you man. manmma isnt about you. its not even about people at all or any of us. its a god damned fucking game and if you have a problem with the game talk about the problem with the game not spend a million pages and a million words talking shit about the people who work on making the game for you. jesus h christ.
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Post by The Sandman on Mar 28, 2022 3:03:50 GMT -5
As I'm sitting here making ManMMA 42, the absolute absurdity of this thread really hit me. If you asked me my PREFERENCE in this whole thing, I prefer the tournaments. They are basically easy-mode when it comes to match-making. We even throw the 4 participants into a randomizer, so I don't even have to think about when 2 guys last fought, what teams people are on, or what would make a good match-up. Nothing. Pure easy-mode. The ONLY problem I have with them is determining who is more worthy of a tournament slot between a high-ranked guy on a losing streak vs. a low/unranked guy on a winning streak. Aside from that, it cuts my match-making time in half, and reduces any bias Kool-Aid drinkers think is going on. Which, in turn, gives me fewer headaches, and makes my life easier. This change is one of many that would have been more work on my behalf just to make the league more exciting for members. The same is true of the whole "Submit your opponents for the GP" thing, that most people, including Phoenix FC, were very enthusiastic about when it was first suggested. Same thing - more work on my end, but it made people happy so I was willing to do it. For all the focus on the word "unenthused", and the assumptions about how much I care about who wins fictional fights on a fantasy website, made for fun and entertainment, little consideration was given to the context, where I said I was " a little unenthused". A statement where I put no weight nor intention behind that little feeling whatsoever, but asked people if they cared if we switched it up. My enthusiasm for this site has nothing to do with the faces on the banner. My enthusiasm for this site does not come from cheating to get fictional people to win fictional belts. I have always felt that to ascribe accusations upon someone, you put your own thought processes into that accusation. I can't imagine a world where someone who spends 10 years building a game for people would have interest in cheating and corrupting that game. Or making it so only people they wanted to win won all the time. ON A FANTASY GAME. What fun would anyone have, were this the case? So I'm closing this thread basically with this: Thank you for making participating. Thank you for making your passionate thoughts known (even you, Kruzey). And a BIG thank you to the one member who spent at least a couple minutes trying to understand why our tournaments and tournament schedules were more complicated than just what you see in posted cards (shout-out to Team GAP). Remember, kids. It's just suggestion, and it's just a game. Stop getting so worked up when people don't agree with you. And remember to respect that others have different opinions than you do. Especially when those people have access to data you have never seen, nor understood. Now go play.
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